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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSat Feb 07, 2015 11:00 pm

for future reference - being really drunk does not help!
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 10:06 am

Well that cup was... demanding! I'm kind of disappointed that I wasn't really able to defend my chances due to technical issues, but then, everybody will have had their share of bad luck. Congrats to Mike, he showed remarkable consistency after his poor first stage, with a whole heap of second places. Although knowing him a little bit, he will not feel like he truly won, but he really deserved it for keeping so cool in the final stage after an impossibly close battle with Wokinger. I would like to do this again some time, even if just for fun.

@Mike (or anyone):
Do you have a video of my disconnection-lolcrash-ragequit incident from stage 9 I believe?
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 10:42 am

We should make a new rule: if sb gets disconnected he has reduced his stage time by time he lost.
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 12:20 pm

Tijny wrote:Do you have a video of my disconnection-lolcrash-ragequit incident from stage 9 I believe?


cut of the scene:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9wrdtxt23fiy ... t.tsr?dl=0

Wokinger wrote:We should make a new rule: if sb gets disconnected he has reduced his stage time by time he lost.


I like where this is heading to.
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 1:06 pm

Wokinger wrote:We should make a new rule: if sb gets disconnected he has reduced his stage time by time he lost.
I'm not sure I understand correctly - how do you measure how much time is lost by the disconnection?

Maybe a better rule would be to drop everyone's worst result: i.e. determine in which stage they lost the most time to the winner (percentage-wise), and give them the same time as the winner there.

Mike Nike wrote:cut of the scene:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9wrdtxt23fiy ... t.tsr?dl=0

Funny, I just checked my own recordings and it's exactly the same as yours - even though I can't remember that crash at all, and couldn't even remember it one minute after the race! See, that's how demanding this cup was for me. :D
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 1:06 pm

:oops: ! stupit me! sry i couldn't make it!
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 2:02 pm

Tijny wrote:
Wokinger wrote:We should make a new rule: if sb gets disconnected he has reduced his stage time by time he lost.
I'm not sure I understand correctly - how do you measure how much time is lost by the disconnection?


Time from the moment your car stopped after disconnection to the moment you connect again. It would be possible once or twice per rally. In that way you won't have advantage if you diconnect by yourself after error.

Tijny wrote:Maybe a better rule would be to drop everyone's worst result: i.e. determine in which stage they lost the most time to the winner (percentage-wise), and give them the same time as the winner there.


I don't think so. Raid like Dakar is not short rally. It demands consistent and making no mistakes. I don't like your idea, cause it's not how it works in rally like Dakar.
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostSun Feb 08, 2015 2:40 pm

Wokinger wrote:Time from the moment your car stopped after disconnection to the moment you connect again. It would be possible once or twice per rally. In that way you won't have advantage if you diconnect by yourself after error.

But that would have to be determined after the rally is over? Or is the judge going to go through recording with timer while others are waiting at server for results and next stage? In theory im with this, cause it sucks that whole race gets ruined by that sort of technical problem.

And I hope Wokinger posts official results + server recordings at some point.
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostTue Feb 10, 2015 2:53 am

Results + server recordings + some polish text:

http://f1sl.thegoo.us/t2037-sl-dakar-20 ... -na-szczyt
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostThu Feb 12, 2015 9:00 am

I made a small recap of the rally with some clips from recordings.

SLD4_01:
Most shocking thing at opening stage was poor perfomance from Mike. It seems he was wearing wrong glasses and couldn't see the road properly.
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Message: <[x] Mike Nike> so horrible problems..
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> i thought i had the right zoom, but this was ridiculous
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> yeah, i got disconnected once too, but..i got lucky there
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> 1.1 before, 1.2 last race, now 1.3

Message:  1. Wokinger               3:28.719
Message:  6. [x] Mike Nike           + 8.667

In this clip you see some of Mike's driving. Clearly not his usual quality driving:
Mike_Nike_01


SLD4_04:
We are discovering one of the (many) weaknesses power79 is having.
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Message: <power79> damn its hard to drive close to another car. And I had to do it for half the stage.

You can watch yourself if his driving was worse than normally:
power79_vs_Shyguy_04


SLD4_05:
On this stage there were one specially dangerous spot. Luckily no one was injured and everyone was able to keep racing. Tinjovic even got pretty good result considering his misfortune. Power79 was not as talented.
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Message: <power79> what a trap. Flew over the rocks mile into the desert. and thousand other mistakes.
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> ...I flew over the stones and there was  nothing I could do about it
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> lol @ high zoom @ multiple stones part LOTTERY xD

Message:  1. [x] Mike Nike          6:38.175
Message:  6. [+] Tinjovic            + 3.913
Message:  8. power79                 +10.360

Trap_05


SLD4_06:
Very dramatic turn of events. Leader Tinjovic lost his consciousness at very close of the finish line and ended up losing at least 40 seconds. Possibility for victory was gone, but luckily after medical examination he was allowed to continue the rally. Power79 just kept whining about having to actually race against someone in competition.
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Message: <Wokinger> sad Tijny
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> hmm..and i was was mad losing 3 sec bumping in a spot i shouldnt have...poor tijny :E
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> ...and then I got disconnected again
Message: <Wokinger> and I saw bmw going off-road..
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> well, gotta aim for podium now

Message: <power79> and again i drove almost whole stage next to another car

Message:  1. Wokinger               7:45.543
Message: 10. [+] Tinjovic            +43.774

In this clip you can watch how power79 fails again to drive under pressure:
power79_vs_arsen36_06


SLD4_07:
Tinjovic keeps up his spirit by dominating next stage. Even freaky accident with pawlew132 doesn't keep him from being clear stage winner.
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Message: <[+] Tinjovic> I jumped on top of pawlew and found myself offroad because of that
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> other than that, pretty good race

Message:  1. [+] Tinjovic           5:57.158
Message:  2. Wokinger                + 5.077

Here you can see this dangerous situation. Amazingly no one got hurt and even damage to cars was minimal:
Tinjovic_jumps_pawlew132_07


SLD4_08:
Long jungle stage had very close battle between Mike Nike and Wokinger. And their gap in overall rally is even smaller, amazing. Power79 just keeps having the same excuse for his poor perfomance.
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Message: <power79> again. first close driving with szymek and then with mike. damn its hard.

Message:  1. Wokinger              10:48.531
Message:  2. [x] Mike Nike           + 0.605

Message: OVERALL RESULTS:
Message:  1. [x] Mike Nike         52:36.033
Message:  2. Wokinger                + 0.516

Power79 struggling with Szymek and Mike:
power79_vs_Mike_Szymek_08


SLD4_09:
Mike think its funny that Tinjovic keeps having unlucky accidents but when he hears that it was due to another loss of consciousness he stops laughing.
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Message: <[x] Mike Nike> :D omg what a laughflash thx to Tijny :D...and a well placed ragequit joke xD
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> hmm?
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> why laugh flash?
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> the crash in the bridge
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> 1-2 sec before end
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> hilarious
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> eh?
Message: <[+] Tinjovic> I think I was disconnected there
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> oh okay

Tinjovic keeps racing even it is clearly risking his health:
Tinjovic_crash_09

SLD4_11:
Tinjovic keeps dominating stages as Mike and Wokinger are having epic battle for victory of rally.
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Message: <[+] Tinjovic> overall gap seems impossibly small now :D
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> tijny too fast..
Message: <[x] Mike Nike> 70min of cup 0.1s to 2nd <3 nice

Message: STAGE RESULTS:
Message:  1. [+] Tinjovic           5:14.143
Message:  2. [x] Mike Nike           + 4.019
Message:  3. Wokinger                + 4.676

Message: OVERALL RESULTS:
Message:  1. [x] Mike Nike       1:10:57.110
Message:  2. Wokinger                + 0.126



SLD4_12:
Same story, total dominance by Tinjovic. Mike having an accident is keeping gap close to Wokinger.
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Message: <[x] Mike Nike> ech..thx to zoom: jump into stone offroad. STUCK. had to drive bw in deep sand to get free :E

Message: STAGE RESULTS:
Message:  1. [+] Tinjovic           6:09.658
Message:  2. Szymek                  + 7.117
Message:  5. [x] Mike Nike           +10.510
Message:  6. Wokinger                +11.407

Message: OVERALL RESULTS:
Message:  1. [x] Mike Nike       1:17:17.278
Message:  2. Wokinger                + 1.023

Small accident by Mike, but rally is still in his own hands:
Mike_Accident_12

SLD4_13:
Same familiar trio again at podium. Wokinger fails to catch Mike and so Mike Nike is the champion!
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Message: STAGE RESULTS:
Message:  1. [+] Tinjovic           5:10.415
Message:  2. [x] Mike Nike           + 2.818
Message:  3. Wokinger                + 6.666

Message: OVERALL RESULTS:
Message:  1. [x] Mike Nike       1:22:30.511
Message:  2. Wokinger                + 4.871
Message:  3. [+] Tinjovic            +14.242
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Re: SL Dakar 2015: #4 Edition

PostThu Dec 24, 2015 3:27 am

Just read that recap, nice :)
So, with pts-based cup (and maybe one where only top 90%+ results count), i just assume Tijny would have won.
Still, one of the coolest cuptypes in TS :)
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