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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by ninjinha_br » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:51 pm

Im in pls

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Will » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:53 pm

power79 wrote: You can check my tool from above link. But if you just want to cut part of a video you can watch the recording in Turbo Sliders and press F4(recording) to start making video clip and then F4 again to end it. Saved clip should then be in "video" folder.
Thanks. I'll use that to better Analise the best laps done by the competition without having to fast forward several laps.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by power79 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:47 pm

Let's keep the conversation going. Seems many of us like statistics so as I have free time tomorrow, I try to extract some info from the race video file. First thing I was able to get was our start reaction times. Accuracy is 0.02 seconds as you can see.

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 1. \/\/||_|_        0.100 sec.
 2. [+] Badeend      0.120 sec.
 3. power79          0.120 sec.
 4. Laf              0.120 sec.
 5. Ippon-Wazaari    0.140 sec.
 6. [x] Mike Nike    0.140 sec.
 7. Jormeli          0.140 sec.
 8. TDi_Gol_v8       0.140 sec.
 9. [+] dede         0.160 sec.
10. Carlos Sainz Jr  0.160 sec.
11. [SL] Wokinger    0.200 sec.
12. Alexander Wurz   0.200 sec.
13. [x] Whiplash     0.200 sec.
14. ktf              0.200 sec.
15. Oompa            0.200 sec.
16. Enrico Papi      0.200 sec.
17. Silva            0.220 sec.
18. Max Trestappen   0.220 sec.
19. Tinjowitsu-san   0.320 sec.
20. [FTR]ftronic     0.760 sec.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Tijny » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:56 pm

power79 wrote:Seems many of us like statistics so as I have free time tomorrow, I try to extract some info from the race video file.
Oh no, I really don't like those statistics, it's just embarrassing...

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Will » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:02 pm

power79 wrote:

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 1. \/\/||_|_        0.100 sec.
 2. [+] Badeend      0.120 sec.
 3. power79          0.120 sec.
 4. Laf              0.120 sec.
 5. Ippon-Wazaari    0.140 sec.
 6. [x] Mike Nike    0.140 sec.
 7. Jormeli          0.140 sec.
 8. TDi_Gol_v8       0.140 sec.
 9. [+] dede         0.160 sec.
10. Carlos Sainz Jr  0.160 sec.
11. [SL] Wokinger    0.200 sec.
12. Alexander Wurz   0.200 sec.
13. [x] Whiplash     0.200 sec.
14. ktf              0.200 sec.
15. Oompa            0.200 sec.
16. Enrico Papi      0.200 sec.
17. Silva            0.220 sec.
18. Max Trestappen   0.220 sec.
19. Tinjowitsu-san   0.320 sec.
20. [FTR]ftronic     0.760 sec.
So... this will define next Sunday's starting grid, right?

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Mike Nike » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:23 pm

But hey, no one accelerated too early, right?

@WILL
i'm fine with that grid! :D

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^^ "reaction of an old citizen" - you were right :D

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Nice stats, power! Nice 1st and 2nd graph there, Bade! Poor Jormeli, driving all alone in the end, silently winning some decent amount of points though..

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by dede » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:39 pm

Mike Nike wrote:@Silcir/dede
First time i tried that car, i was 1-3 seconds (track depending) slower than the record as well. I'm sure, you guys will catch up, if you just practice a little. Although watching dede race, it kinda felt like he is more chilling and having fun cruising than trying any serious... yet! Which is fine too, though! :D
I wasn't cruising, I'm simply slow because of various reasons:
- long time without playing
- playing on the sofa with stupid laptop (I had a great desktop back then, but I moved and I don't have a room for that)
- I lost some competitiveness maybe, but actually I couldn't push any harder than that
- car is hard to handle compared to other TS cars, or at least that's the feeling..

Battling with you guys will not be possible anymore, unless my gf up breaks with me and I go back to my old desktop :D

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by power79 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:03 am

Next stats. These can always have errors if I have made mistake when quickly writing algorithms.

Fuel Consumption / lap

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 1. [x] Mike Nike    2,13%
 2. Alexander Wurz   2,14%
 3. [x] Whiplash     2,14%
 4. Oompa            2,15%
 5. [+] dede         2,15%
 6. Jormeli          2,15%
 7. \/\/||_|_        2,15%
 8. [+] Badeend      2,16%
 9. Tinjowitsu-san   2,17%
10. Enrico Papi      2,17%
11. Laf              2,18%
12. Max Trestappen   2,18%
13. Ippon-Wazaari    2,19%
14. Carlos Sainz Jr  2,19%
15. [SL] Wokinger    2,20%
16. TDi_Gol_v8       2,20%
17. power79          2,21%
18. Silva            2,21%
19. ktf              2,23%
20. [FTR]ftronic     6,55%
Tyre Wear / lap

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 1. [x] Mike Nike    2,90%
 2. Alexander Wurz   2,96%
 3. Tinjowitsu-san   2,97%
 4. [x] Whiplash     2,97%
 5. Jormeli          2,98%
 6. Oompa            2,98%
 7. [+] Badeend      3,06%
 8. [SL] Wokinger    3,07%
 9. \/\/||_|_        3,09%
10. Max Trestappen   3,09%
11. [+] dede         3,10%
12. Carlos Sainz Jr  3,17%
13. power79          3,22%
14. Laf              3,22%
15. Enrico Papi      3,26%
16. TDi_Gol_v8       3,29%
17. Silva            3,30%
18. ktf              3,31%
19. Ippon-Wazaari    3,44%
20. [FTR]ftronic     6,62%

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Tijny » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:44 am

Good stuff. I'd also be interested in seeing fuel consumption/tyre wear per minute instead of per lap, and if that would show any interesting patterns.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by power79 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:52 am

Tijny wrote:Good stuff. I'd also be interested in seeing fuel consumption/tyre wear per minute instead of per lap, and if that would show any interesting patterns.
Sure. Again, I did this stuff in a hurry so there could be errors in calculations.

Fuel Consumption / min

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 1. Max Trestappen   1,46%
 2. Alexander Wurz   1,48%
 3. \/\/||_|_        1,49%
 4. [+] dede         1,49%
 5. Enrico Papi      1,49%
 6. Ippon-Wazaari    1,49%
 7. [x] Mike Nike    1,50%
 8. Jormeli          1,50%
 9. Laf              1,50%
10. [x] Whiplash     1,50%
11. Oompa            1,50%
12. TDi_Gol_v8       1,50%
13. Carlos Sainz Jr  1,51%
14. [+] Badeend      1,51%
15. ktf              1,52%
16. power79          1,52%
17. Tinjowitsu-san   1,52%
18. [SL] Wokinger    1,52%
19. Silva            1,52%
20. [FTR]ftronic     4,69%
Tyre Wear / min

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 1. [x] Mike Nike    2,03%
 2. Alexander Wurz   2,05%
 3. Jormeli          2,07%
 4. Max Trestappen   2,07%
 5. [x] Whiplash     2,07%
 6. Tinjowitsu-san   2,08%
 7. Oompa            2,08%
 8. [SL] Wokinger    2,13%
 9. \/\/||_|_        2,13%
10. [+] Badeend      2,14%
11. [+] dede         2,14%
12. Carlos Sainz Jr  2,19%
13. Laf              2,21%
14. power79          2,22%
15. Enrico Papi      2,23%
16. TDi_Gol_v8       2,25%
17. ktf              2,25%
18. Silva            2,27%
19. Ippon-Wazaari    2,35%
20. [FTR]ftronic     4,74%
And more stats. Stats everywhere!

Offroad Time / lap

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 1. [x] Mike Nike    0.069 sec.
 2. Tinjowitsu-san   0.158 sec.
 3. Oompa            0.162 sec.
 4. Alexander Wurz   0.186 sec.
 5. [x] Whiplash     0.209 sec.
 6. Jormeli          0.239 sec.
 7. [SL] Wokinger    0.247 sec.
 8. [+] Badeend      0.294 sec.
 9. \/\/||_|_        0.323 sec.
10. Enrico Papi      0.331 sec.
11. Max Trestappen   0.398 sec.
12. power79          0.417 sec.
13. [+] dede         0.458 sec.
14. Carlos Sainz Jr  0.499 sec.
15. Laf              0.556 sec.
16. Silva            0.725 sec.
17. TDi_Gol_v8       0.756 sec.
18. ktf              0.820 sec.
19. Ippon-Wazaari    1.134 sec.
20. [FTR]ftronic     20.208 sec.
Edit: I think sector times has errors so I removed it.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Whiplash » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:20 pm

Ok, now I have a sick demand too: How much time each driver spent on accelerating, braking, idling.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Carlos Sainz Jr » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:20 pm

Excellent job Power, very appreciated!

Judging my numbers I think my driving style is a bit too aggressive but as long as I can manage tyres' decay while racing I'm not worried. I didn't expect to have spent so much time offroad to be honest, even cause I remember I made a good sequence throughout the race. Apparently, those few times I failed Turns I stayed out for a bit too much :mrgreen:


Oh, I think laf broke the system somehow. Check live times of new track :p

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Badeend » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:48 pm

WTF, cheater!

I'll look into it this evening.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Mike Nike » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:56 pm

Woo, awesome, power-ful stats! :D
Winner of 4 golden Ecos^^, what what :D
I wanna thank the Power Algorithm Company, Chuck Norris (for not taking part) and REIROM (for not taking part)...and Ande, a tiny bit Tijny, Bade in the end, also dedecating the wins to ecogenious dede... but not to Whip, because i cant see any word jokes i can do with your name right now..

Ok, jokes aside. Waza has 2,19% fuel consumption/lap because he was 1 lap off.. took me a while to realize, lol..
Coming from the always-acceleration driving style to the eco-style, it kinda looks like i'm doing fine in those stats.
Considering my slowish fuel saving last +-10 laps though, i'd be probably only in the better midfield.
Alexander Wurz seems to have a natural talent here (place 2,2,2,2,4). Well done!
Tijny being offroad so often? Maybe due to cutting last curve here and there?

16.859 - nice lap by laf :E
I hope it's just a database error instead of checkline errors in the track.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by power79 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:10 pm

Ok. I think sector times are correct this time.

Best Sector 1 Time (Control Point 1 --> Control Point 6)

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 1. [SL] Wokinger    26.385 sec. (Lap 32)
 2. Tinjowitsu-san   26.450 sec. (Lap 33)
 3. Jormeli          26.454 sec. (Lap 37)
 4. [x] Mike Nike    26.462 sec. (Lap 40)
 5. Carlos Sainz Jr  26.504 sec. (Lap 34)
 6. [+] dede         26.541 sec. (Lap 22)
 7. [+] Badeend      26.552 sec. (Lap 34)
 8. Ippon-Wazaari    26.561 sec. (Lap 34)
 9. Silva            26.575 sec. (Lap 34)
10. ktf              26.629 sec. (Lap 38)
11. power79          26.665 sec. (Lap 35)
12. Enrico Papi      26.674 sec. (Lap 37)
13. TDi_Gol_v8       26.685 sec. (Lap 34)
14. Laf              26.689 sec. (Lap 33)
15. Alexander Wurz   26.697 sec. (Lap 38)
16. Max Trestappen   26.718 sec. (Lap 37)
17. [x] Whiplash     26.757 sec. (Lap 27)
18. Oompa            26.825 sec. (Lap 21)
19. \/\/||_|_        26.899 sec. (Lap 31)
20. [FTR]ftronic     27.074 sec. (Lap  4)
Best Sector 2 Time (Control Point 6 --> Control Point 14)

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 1. [+] Badeend      24.423 sec. (Lap 35)
 2. [x] Mike Nike    24.478 sec. (Lap 27)
 3. Tinjowitsu-san   24.553 sec. (Lap 23)
 4. [x] Whiplash     24.628 sec. (Lap 28)
 5. Silva            24.647 sec. (Lap 37)
 6. Carlos Sainz Jr  24.710 sec. (Lap 32)
 7. [+] dede         24.757 sec. (Lap 27)
 8. Oompa            24.759 sec. (Lap 20)
 9. TDi_Gol_v8       24.771 sec. (Lap 29)
10. power79          24.793 sec. (Lap 35)
11. Jormeli          24.849 sec. (Lap 30)
12. ktf              24.896 sec. (Lap 33)
13. [SL] Wokinger    24.905 sec. (Lap 36)
14. \/\/||_|_        24.926 sec. (Lap 27)
15. Enrico Papi      24.937 sec. (Lap 38)
16. Alexander Wurz   25.093 sec. (Lap 17)
17. Laf              25.095 sec. (Lap 23)
18. Ippon-Wazaari    25.171 sec. (Lap 33)
19. Max Trestappen   25.618 sec. (Lap 31)
20. [FTR]ftronic     26.233 sec. (Lap  2)
Best Sector 3 Time (Control Point 14 --> Control Point 1)

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 1. [+] Badeend      34.648 sec. (Lap 35)
 2. Tinjowitsu-san   34.750 sec. (Lap 36)
 3. Silva            34.862 sec. (Lap 36)
 4. power79          34.891 sec. (Lap 32)
 5. [x] Mike Nike    34.925 sec. (Lap 30)
 6. Carlos Sainz Jr  34.942 sec. (Lap 34)
 7. [SL] Wokinger    34.980 sec. (Lap 38)
 8. Oompa            35.015 sec. (Lap 23)
 9. [x] Whiplash     35.033 sec. (Lap 21)
10. Jormeli          35.067 sec. (Lap 33)
11. Ippon-Wazaari    35.093 sec. (Lap 33)
12. TDi_Gol_v8       35.101 sec. (Lap 36)
13. \/\/||_|_        35.109 sec. (Lap 23)
14. Alexander Wurz   35.148 sec. (Lap 29)
15. Enrico Papi      35.150 sec. (Lap 32)
16. ktf              35.166 sec. (Lap 37)
17. [+] dede         35.212 sec. (Lap 25)
18. Laf              35.361 sec. (Lap 21)
19. Max Trestappen   35.714 sec. (Lap 32)
20. [FTR]ftronic     36.265 sec. (Lap  3)
Whiplash wrote:Ok, now I have a sick demand too: How much time each driver spent on accelerating, braking, idling.
I don't know how useful data that would be? Doesn't for example 1 pitstop vs. 3 pitstops influence those numbers too much?

I think I will try to get our pit times next. (From entering pitlane to exiting back to track)

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Alexander Wurz » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:20 pm

Ideal lap was 1:25.456, which would have qualified in 5th position. Pretty fast lap it seems. Interesting also that B set records for sector 2 & 3 in the same lap. Did he stop at 34?

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Mike Nike » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:52 pm

So kewl :)
dede with a lack in sector 3.
Me with low fuel, but sucky tyres fast in sector 1.
Yeah, Bade made a late 2nd stop. It was probably his fast lap after pitting.
Not sure, if those 3 sector times may be summarized that easily to an ideal lap, since maybe reaching some checklines early could mean that you slowed down too late and screwed the next sector. But maybe power79 chose the checklines wisely in a way, so the summing up kinda works(?).

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Carlos Sainz Jr » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:04 pm

Wait, wait, wait. I set my best time in 1:26:897 which I guess was at lap 34 judging sectors 1 & 3, but if i add them with Sector 2 the total is a sick 1:26:156, faster than Mike Nike's one and only +0.2 from T and B. How is that possible? I failed 2nd sector of my best time by 0.700? :shock:

EDIT: Ok hold on, my personal best was at lap 33 and my best sectors are at 32 and 34. I'm confused now xD Total is still a sick time tho. Pure Talent 8)

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by power79 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:30 pm

Ok. Here is our pitting times. Maybe this is enough statistics?

edit: Sorry, forgot to calculate offsets. Now the accuracy should be correct.
Pitting Times

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 1. Carlos Sainz Jr  13.368 sec. (Lap 29)
 2. Ippon-Wazaari    13.673 sec. (Lap 21)
 3. [x] Mike Nike    13.694 sec. (Lap 26)
 4. [SL] Wokinger    13.698 sec. (Lap 15)
 5. Jormeli          13.715 sec. (Lap 14)
 6. power79          13.770 sec. (Lap 30)
 7. [SL] Wokinger    13.841 sec. (Lap 27)
 8. Alexander Wurz   13.881 sec. (Lap 29)
 9. Carlos Sainz Jr  13.905 sec. (Lap 14)
10. [+] Badeend      13.908 sec. (Lap 33)
11. [+] Badeend      14.025 sec. (Lap 20)
12. [x] Mike Nike    14.027 sec. (Lap 13)
13. Enrico Papi      14.074 sec. (Lap 16)
14. [+] dede         14.106 sec. (Lap 21)
15. Laf              14.119 sec. (Lap 21)
16. Jormeli          14.121 sec. (Lap 28)
17. Silva            14.126 sec. (Lap 33)
18. Silva            14.285 sec. (Lap 20)
19. Oompa            14.347 sec. (Lap 17)
20. Ippon-Wazaari    14.373 sec. (Lap 30)
21. Max Trestappen   14.409 sec. (Lap 10)
22. Alexander Wurz   14.446 sec. (Lap 14)
23. Silva            14.499 sec. (Lap 32)
24. Tinjowitsu-san   14.523 sec. (Lap 21)
25. Ippon-Wazaari    14.612 sec. (Lap 11)
26. \/\/||_|_        14.685 sec. (Lap 20)
27. Tinjowitsu-san   14.855 sec. (Lap 31)
28. Tinjowitsu-san   14.995 sec. (Lap 11)
29. power79          15.041 sec. (Lap 10)
30. Max Trestappen   15.045 sec. (Lap 30)
31. ktf              15.113 sec. (Lap 15)
32. [x] Whiplash     15.290 sec. (Lap 21)
33. TDi_Gol_v8       15.897 sec. (Lap 28)
34. Max Trestappen   16.097 sec. (Lap 20)
35. Enrico Papi      17.193 sec. (Lap 29)
36. power79          17.769 sec. (Lap 20)
37. ktf              19.964 sec. (Lap 29)
Mike Nike wrote: But maybe power79 chose the checklines wisely in a way, so the summing up kinda works(?).
No, just randomly. But it is easy to change those to different control points if needed.
Carlos Sainz Jr wrote: Wait, wait, wait. I set my best time in 1:26:897 which I guess was at lap 34 judging sectors 1 & 3, but if i add them with Sector 2 the total is a sick 1:26:156, faster than Mike Nike's one and only +0.2 from T and B. How is that possible? I failed 2nd sector of my best time by 0.700? :shock:

EDIT: Ok hold on, my personal best was at lap 33 and my best sectors are at 32 and 34. I'm confused now xD Total is still a sick time tho. Pure Talent
It's always possible that there's errors. If you clearly see something wrong you can let me know. I guess in theory sector 3 lap number could be off by one sometimes for example. So maybe I check those in case of errors.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Tijny » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:25 pm

Oh, this is just embarrassing again. But in my defense, I had a bit of a pitlane accident in my test race where I braked too late and crashed into the stack of tyres, so I wanted to avoid that by braking early. I had no idea I gave up so much time by doing that, but I suppose it does make sense. :)

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by power79 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:19 pm

Carlos, here are sector times for your laps 32-34. Maybe these clear things up.

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Lap 32 sectors: 26.786  24.710  35.733  1:27.229
Lap 33 sectors: 26.576  25.093  35.228  1:26.897
Lap 34 sectors: 26.504  25.657  34.942  1:27.103
And now all stats I posted are available in this txt file:
Stats

I can do these stats for every race with little effort. But I keep them in that txt file in future. I think I flooded this topic bit too much.

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Carlos Sainz Jr » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:35 pm

power79 wrote:Carlos, here are sector times for your laps 32-34. Maybe these clear things up.

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Lap 32 sectors: 26.786  24.710  35.733  1:27.229
Lap 33 sectors: 26.576  25.093  35.228  1:26.897
Lap 34 sectors: 26.504  25.657  34.942  1:27.103
And now all stats I posted are available in this txt file:
Stats

I can do these stats for every race with little effort. But I keep them in that txt file in future. I think I flooded this topic bit too much.
Yeah thanks, it was all right. It is just surprising how my personal best was at lap 33 without having any best sector in there, 'cause they're at lap 34 (sectors 1;3) and 32 (sector 2) which together make a sick time. Thanks again Power!

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by Enrico Papi » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:35 pm

Nice work Power, awesome stats

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

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Re: Formula 1 World Championship #1

Post by dede » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:55 pm

Nice stats although they are embarrassing for me :))

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