Quick 2vs2 PunaBall Tournament #3 - Monday 27 June 2011

[Fama]

hello again...im able to play for one hour in a half...unexpected duty call...so can i still play?:)))

[Kyna_musti]

Be nice, and give me your spot:) i was signed myself up to other topic where we decided which day we'll play this tournament. If you anyway can't play whole tournament?

[Fama]

sure..you play the rest of tournament when i leave lol = you'll play the quarter-semi finals and final ...

[Fama]

but i start:)

[Kyna_musti]

that doesn't sounds pretty nice:D I try to my own spot and that really sucks if someone leaves after first round. I think players who can play whole tournament, will play it

[Dide Dide]

Introduction

Entry List
Although signing up isn't required, spots are granted for those who sign up.

1. dede
2. Tijny
3. Badeend
4. Swaam
5. xzeal
6. Etmil
7. Matti
8. Storm
9. majstorfantac
10. popobitch
11. kapa112
12. Lexx
13. Del
14. Famagustas
15. Kooler
16. njoka
17. VPA

I Wrote IN i think dede didnt see it, for now i have a free time, lets see if nothing will ruin my possibilty of participating

I was checking the Players list but i am shocked,
Can someone Tell me why i am not sign up?

[dede]

1. Tijny + Badeend
2. Matti + Storm
3. Famagustas + kapa112
4. xzeal + dede


Thanks to all players, it was fun! Next time I'll try to make a better system, so that we all play more games (even those who lose first match). See ya!

[Fama]

Let me tell you Dede that it was very fun tournament, besides from that rule of the golden goal:p but like i said the main goal was reached that was to have fun and have some good punaball matches... next time will be better and so on:)

I propose more Puna cups...during the week and weekend!

[Fama]

ah and the results posted on forum:p

[Tijny]

Yes, it was a nice tournament. Personally I played better than I had in a long time, and Badeend was solid as a rock too. I really thought we would lose to the TDi dudes.

The rules could've used a little more work, particularly the semi-finals were quite bad. At 5-1, 2-1 I lost my concentration because I thought we had already won (which turned out to be true) so we ended up losing that game 4-5, even though we still won on aggregate. That was kind of silly, and of course the golden goal in the other match wasn't ideal either. Anyway, thanks for organizing, I look forward to the next one.

[kapa112]

Thanks for organizing this, I don't remember the last time I had such a great time playing puna.

My partnership with Famagustas was a nice surprise to me - his speed fitted well in my playing style. That almost gave us an opportunity to play in the final, but we totally screwed up the golden goal game. Still, 3rd place after beating dede and xzeal is a nice result. Thanks and hopefully we have more of these cups in the future!

[dede]

Beeves, I'm gonna organize a new pb cup for next monday (11 July), please let's have a brainstorming session about the rules..

Thank you

[Tijny]

Precisely why I didn't remove my original topic thing. viewtopic.php?p=24372#24372

The group stage idea is nice, 10 minutes is the perfect length for these games and of course in 99% of the cases there's no need for golden goal shit either. Maybe it could be troublesome for the organizers with players having to switch servers every 10 minutes and so on, but I guess that's not that big an issue.

I strongly disagree with the rules used in the semi-finals, for reasons I mentioned in my previous post in this topic - It would be better if it was best-of-3 like the final. A goal limit of either 5+1 or 5+2 could work, but I guess 5+1 would be be best for time-related reasons. About the final, I'm not so fond of the fact that the final potentially takes longer than all other rounds combined. Three 10+2 games can easily take up to (or sometimes even over) an hour when the teams are even, so I can't help but feel that despite the age-old 10+2 tradition, 7+2 (ish) games would be better.

[Fama]

first idea- Golden Goal should be abolish and we should make another game when matches are tied in finals, semi and quarter-finals with 3 goals with +2 goals rule(e.g when tied 2-2, the winner has to score 2 more goals and suffer 0, 4-2 to win.

You guys prefer group stages(e.g giving more attention to goal average)
with 4 and the first 2 pass through quarter,semi or finals(depending on the number of registrations) so the first ones to loose can play more or knock-out games should be mantained?

But most important from the last time is that the golden goal should be abolish by an extra match.

[Fama]

i've written this already but this is the official puna cup topic right? so here it goes:

we could have one spectator for each game to make a list of goals so we could have top goalscorer , top assists and might have a team of the weekly puna cup.(2 players based on stats and achievements)to be posted on forum, but this is very doubtful since i dont think that we can manage to get 4/5 guys to do that...but it could be funny

[[gasp]poppowitch]

Random Teams dede?

[Tijny]

Random Teams dede?

Yeah sure, if you want the result of the tournament to depend completely on the luck of the draw. In the last cup all four semi-finalists were capable of winning the whole thing, whereas with random teams there would be only two teams fighting for the win at most since some top players will inevitably be put together. You could say that random teams would make things more balanced, but in reality the opposite is true.

[[gasp]poppowitch]

and if we make 2 pots, 1st pot whit top players,2nd pot whit noobs...
each team is made up of 1 player from pot and 1 player from pot 2...

or we can make 4 pots... (pot1+pot4 pot2+pot3)soo pros need to play whit "newbies"...
and teams wut be nice balanced!

[kapa112]

and if we make 2 pots, 1st pot whit top players,2nd pot whit noobs...
each team is made up of 1 player from pot and 1 player from pot 2...

or we can make 4 pots... (pot1+pot4 pot2+pot3)soo pros need to play whit "newbies"...
and teams wut be nice balanced!

Ok, so I claim I'm a noob, while Famagustas is a pro in my opinion. We should totally play together. I mean, who's going to judge this?

[Fama]

I prefer to play with someone im "used to play" than with some random guy...but its just me, i dont know...we live in a democratic world! i vote for pick teams !

[dede]

Nah, random teams are nonsense. It's a punaball cup for teams, so best team wins (not best players or lucky players). Crappy players can search for a mate before the cup and start training together. The more you play together, the more you learn, the better you finish. Good teams aren't necessarily composed by top players.

[Mike Nike]

about the random teams...
could something like the following work?
or something similar..
basic idea..each player plays exactly 4 games
necessary: number of participants should be 4, 8, 12, 16 or 20




group round, 3 games for each player, best+worst(or 2nd worst and so on, if already played with) vs 2nd best+2ndworst

12 vs 34 2-0
56 vs 78 2-0

# n pts (rank, name of player, points)
1 1 2
2 2 2
3 5 2
4 6 2
5 3 0
6 4 0
7 7 0
8 8 0

18 27 2-0
36 45 1-1

# n pts
1 1 4
2 3 3
3 4 3
4 6 3
5 8 2
6 2 2
7 5 1
8 7 0

17 35 1-1
42 68 2-0

# n pts
1 1 5
2 4 5
3 3 4
4 2 4
5 6 3
6 8 2
7 5 2
8 7 1

finals, 1 game for each player

match for position 1-4
12 43 2-0
match for position 5-8
67 85 2-0

# n pts
1 1 7
2 2 6
3 4 5
4 3 4 (4th place for player 3, even he has less pts than player 6)

5 6 5
6 7 3
7 8 2
8 7 1

[Fama]

So, Dede, the Puna Cup will be on next monday(18th of July)?